EP066 – Tale as Old as Time w/ Gene Gallerano

08.20.2026 - Season: 1 Episode 66

Keith walks Hyde Park—with a detour into & across the Hancock Golf Course—with LA’s Gene Gallerano. An East Dallas kid raised on the humanities and Poor David’s Pub, Gene’s an actor-turned-producer-turned-Emmy-winning director, fresh off multiple wins at the Waco FF for THANK YOU FOR LISTENING, his Texas Monthly short about country singer Joshua Ray Walker. The origin story is a rom-com: Gene boards a flight, spots Joshua Ray, and talks to him for seven hours straight—true love at 30,000 feet. Then… nothing. 3 ½ months later, the text: Joshua Ray was diagnosed with cancer, off the road for eight months—do you still want to make something? No money, no camera, no crew. But Gene is all in. He builds a set in the loft at his mom’s house, recruits Austin doc-maker Bob Ray to co-direct, and shoots the doc on his late friend Ross McDonnell’s camera gear—”just don’t change any of his settings, it’ll feel like we have him.”

From there we work the whole map: moving to the East Village at 19, studying theater under Austin Pendleton, and turning a rejected-everywhere $13,000 “thin feature” — featuring Meryl Streep & Philip Seymour Hoffman among others—into a 19-minute short that premiered at Tribeca: STARRING AUSTIN PENDLETON. Talking his way into hurricane zones with a camera. Producing AMERICAN SYMPHONY with Matt Heineman. And holding the boom for hours in COVID ICUs on THE FIRST WAVE, steadying himself on the repetition of his daughter’s favorite lyrics: “a tale as old as time, Beauty and the Beast.”.

Plus: a first-ever DocWalks golf swing on a borrowed club, the broads of the East Village, Reed Birney and the break that came at 57, and the advice that sticks—if you have time to worry, you have time to work.

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00:00 First Light Books and a Hyde Park morning 01:09 Meet Gene Gallerano — best projects start in an alley 01:40 THE EYES OF ME and the wedding-table origin story 04:49 A man on the move: Dallas, and Waco Film Festival wins 05:36 Love at 30,000 feet: meeting Joshua Ray Walker 06:56 Ghosted — then the text that changed everything 07:18 Fresh off producing AMERICAN SYMPHONY 08:34 Put yourself in the corner: no money, no camera, no crew 10:13 Star-crossed lovers and the circle of confusion 11:42 Stepping behind the director’s chair from a distance 12:20 Building a set in the loft above mom’s bed 13:58 The pitch begins with your subject and continues with your crew 16:18 Ross McDonnell’s camera: “don’t change any of his settings” 18:54 A three-string guitar from a pawn shop 19:06 Every crew member had lost someone to cancer 20:27 The material defines the length: thin features 20:50 STARRING AUSTIN PENDLETON — Streep, Hoffman, and $13,000 24:06 The secret iMovie recut that made Tribeca 25:56 Beat away with a baseball bat — “oh, is he still here?” 26:43 Dayton and the wisdom of just showing up 27:41 East Dallas, Poor David’s Pub, and a house full of humanities 29:46 New York at 19: landing in the East Village 31:05 The broads of the East Village 33:23 A first-ever golf swing on the Hancock course 35:47 Classic Stage Company: the North Star on 13th Street 36:20 Studying with Austin Pendleton at HB Studio 38:17 Ivanov with Ethan Hawke — standing on the North Star stage 39:07 Acting: the great impossibility 41:50 The Polish restlessness — done asking permission 42:49 Talking his way into disaster zones 44:22 What rebuilding reveals about people 46:01 THE FIRST WAVE: holding the boom in COVID ICUs 48:33 Tale as old as time 50:35 Nuts and bolts: skitter-scatter brains 52:54 Hybrid films and never overstaying your welcome 53:44 Collaboration, Bob Ray, and HELL ON WHEELS 55:43 The Nonfiction Hot List says yes 57:50 Texas Monthly comes aboard 59:06 If you build it, they will come 1:00:00 Lightning round: DAZED AND CONFUSED meets THE DOORS 1:00:20 COOL HAND LUKE, a perfect film 1:01:33 Advice: if you have time to worry, you have time to work 1:02:16 Reed Birney and the break that came at 57 1:03:32 Next time: Margaret Brown